Thimbleweed Park Podcast #44

by Ron Gilbert
Mar 28, 2016

Join us as we talk about GDC and Gary professes his support for Donald Trump.

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- Ron

Kroesi - Mar 28, 2016 at 14:24
Glad you are not supporting Trump...
At first I was shocked when I read the title of this Podcast. I should have known your humor :-)

Big Red Button - Mar 28, 2016 at 15:30
Thimbleweed Park II: Ransome for President ;-)

Hoper Klag - Mar 28, 2016 at 14:52
Finally! A month without podcast....

Guy Banister - Mar 28, 2016 at 15:54
Yeah, it is soooo cool that we are speaking about politics in this episode.

Because the media, social media and the internet are so saturated with it, that I cannot escape it. Once games where about escapeism from the real world. But not anymore. Everything need to be realistic and we have to take a stance against the great satan of Donald Trump at every single internet-post, game, movie and tweet. It makes me soooo happy. (but seriously I hate it. I wish I had a time machine so that I could go forwards in time so that I cannot witness this cringy time, where I have to hear about the greatest satan (trump), the great satan (Cruz), the little satan (hillary) and Bernie Christ every single day, and know that I am worse than puke for not wanting to vote for Bernie [peace be upon])

Franklin - Mar 28, 2016 at 15:57
Your comment talked about politics 5 to 6 times more than the podcast did.

longuist (Rawinsonde the clown) - Mar 28, 2016 at 17:18
If you dont have time to edit it yourself, give the material of the missing podcast to Zak Phoenix McKracken. I'm pretty sure he will scan it for any trace of important stuff like.. um, the weather or .. or ok thats pretty much it.

Maybe an easter version of this:
Make it so. Warp 10. Engage!

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Mar 28, 2016 at 17:24
Ahahah thanks for your credits!
I have not listened to the podcast yet, I'll do within a few minutes. Since it's quite late now in Italy, I will leave my comments tomorrow morning...

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Mar 28, 2016 at 18:35
Just finished listening to it!
I couldn't wait until tomorrow to write a comment!
I had thought to create a concentrate of what Ron said during various GDC interviews, as seen on the Internet, again just for fun... then I waited until the official podcast release, that is today,  before taking any decision.
Well, I have fun with little things, so after having listened to what everyone have said, I think I'll plan to create another podcast.
Please be patient, I have a primary job, too :-D

Talking about important things: in this podcast you mentioned that you are almost ready to cast actors, by giving a sample file and to evaluate the result.
Can you estimate, today, how much time remains before the text of the game will be locked?

P.S.: for the record,  today here was raining a little! :-)

Paulup - Mar 28, 2016 at 19:58
Uh oh, now you need to get the game done before Trump becomes president and deports Gary for besmirching the good name of Supreme Leader Trump.

Peter Campbell - Mar 28, 2016 at 19:59
Trump is a bigger, more vulgar clown than Ransome lol.

But seriously,  great to hear about the GDC show.  I imagine that there's always a lot of nervous excitement when showing off a playable demo of a new game to the public for the first time.  While not finished yet, it has to feel really good knowing that what was initially just a kickstarter campaign some 16 months ago with a really nice trailer and some rough concept designs/ideas is now a nearly full-fledged game and everyone's hard work can now be proudly displayed and shown off =)

Mattias Cedervall - Mar 28, 2016 at 21:35
So Donald Drumpf will be Thimbleweed Park's last boss?

Gv - Mar 28, 2016 at 22:00
Do you want to see an Atari 2600 demo of Thimbleweed Park?
It came out in 1987 to entice people to buy the PC ;)
I am practicing with Atari 2600 programming since about a year ago and I cannot make full games yet. I decided to do this little thing as a joke.

Lukas - Mar 29, 2016 at 02:02
That's some impressive graphics! The 2600 games I played never looked that good.

Also, really funny :-)

Gv - Mar 29, 2016 at 06:13
Thank you!! I got inspired in things that people do in demos and other games, for example idea for the water I took an idea from a game called Surfs up (I think it was called that way) searching in google for "best graphics atari 2600" :)

Brian S - Mar 29, 2016 at 13:01
Great work!  What's your development/test environment like for the Atari 2600? (do you program in assembly? do you run only in an emulator or real hardware?)  I've always been enamored with that platform, since it was one of my earliest exposures to video games.

If we ever have a library of amazing Thimbleweed Park Fan Goodness, this certainly deserves a spot!

Gv - Mar 29, 2016 at 13:09
Thank you, Brian!! What I use is dasm assembler, I write MOS 6502 assembly which is not very difficult, what is difficult is to have the graphics to work properly, what I used initially is a template of a static graphic that worked, and over that I built different games. The emulator I use is Stella, which is the best emulator, they said. I can't test on real hardware, I used to have a console but I don't have it anymore. There are ways to test on real hardware by means of a special cartridge (Harmony Cart) that accepts sd memories.

Zombocast - Mar 28, 2016 at 23:33
Menu at the Diner..
Now serving: Hot Hotdogs, Cold Coldcuts, *Ham Hamburgers and Roasted Roast Beef.
With your choice of sides: Crisp Crisps,  Fried Fries or *Salad, topped with Pickled Pickles, Beat Beats and Vinegar Vinaigrette sauce.

Daniel Wolf - Mar 29, 2016 at 03:15
Listening to Gary describing the crowd scene, I remembered Monkey Island, where all the pirates you could fight seemed to be built from the same small set of images. I think there were a handful of bodies and heads that got combined at random, plus they rotated the color of the shirt.

Are you planning to do something similar for the crowd scene, or are you actually going to draw and animate each person individually?

Gary Winnick - Mar 29, 2016 at 11:20
We'll be doing each one individually-

Big Red Button - Mar 29, 2016 at 16:54
Wow, that sounds complex! I can't wait to see the result!

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Mar 29, 2016 at 10:36
To the TP team:
if you are still interested in advertising the game in Europe, maybe you can join the Lucca Comics and Games festival, usually at the end of October, in Italy (Tuscany).
It's the second biggest festival in the world, and the first one in Europe.
More information are available also on wikipedia:
and the official website:

Zarbulonian - Mar 29, 2016 at 16:09
Lucca is a wonderful medieval/renaissance town in Tuscany, well worth the trip on its own...

Zuckerberg - Mar 29, 2016 at 12:51
Listening to the podcast today, I had this thought: why aren't you guys doing some of the character voices in the game? I can understand that you feel real voice-actors have to do the lead voices, but what about filling some minor parts? What about that?

Ron Gilbert - Mar 29, 2016 at 12:54
Because acting is hard and when A sucky actor shows up, it can ruin everything. It would be amusing for a small group of people and annoying for everyone else. I have also found that people who are entertaining and interesting to listen to can often fall apart when you put a script in front of them. Acting is not just talking, it's playing a part.

Zuckerberg - Mar 29, 2016 at 13:11
So does that mean your podcasts aren't scripted?! (shaking head in disbelief)

Pope Francis - Mar 29, 2016 at 16:23
Pardon my OT, but... Are you really THAT Zuckerberg? Sorry if I ask, but you know, the guy that hosts this blog has "Ron Gilbert" as an alias and... You won't believe it, but it seems he is the real one.

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Mar 29, 2016 at 16:49
Pardon my OT, but... Are you really THAT Pope?

Ema - Mar 31, 2016 at 10:12
No. It was me. How did you get it?!?

Nor Treblig - Mar 29, 2016 at 20:18
Yes, as a matter of fact: he's THAT Zuckerberg.
The Avatar clearly matches the famous stone formation, he really is Zuckerberg, a "mountain" in Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen:

Also he is 5m high, a giant!

Zuckerberg - Mar 30, 2016 at 07:34
Although I've heard about one remote relative from New York, who moved to the Valley or so... the most famous of us Zuckerbergs had a part in the Simpsons

Tuna Heads inc. - Mar 30, 2016 at 09:44
Hey Ron,
As I was reading old blogposts of yours, I found that one photoshop file of the radio station. I found that quite interesting to look at all the Layers He did. Im working on a game myself and Im doing the Background f thet project too. Could you please post more of those Background photoshop files? Would be very nice!

Tuna Heads inc. - Mar 30, 2016 at 09:46
* ON THAT project too