ThimbleCon '87

by Gary Winnick
Jan 07, 2015

Once Ron and I established we'd be developing a title that harkened back to Maniac Mansion, we started playing around with the look and tools.

The most obvious being photoshop which is kinda the workhorse of the 2D art industry. I've been using it mainly for my comic book pages and other project coloring since I'd been primarily drawing on paper, scanning my finished inked black and white pages and completing them digitally to add color and text.

In the case of Thimbleweed, the style really lends itself to just drawing everything digitally from the start. Although I still spend time figuring out my initial concepts and layouts as rough sketches or storyboards.

Here's one of my first exercises as we're rapidly coming up with a wide cast of characters...

For the concept of ThimbleCon, we want to have some events happening in town that bring a number of interesting and unique characters into the mix.

People might wonder given the size of the Edmund Hotel some of what's going on to help keep it in business. The short answer is a bunch of small eclectic venues. Given the hotel was originally built during the town's heyday, now long gone, there's an incentive on the part of the last vestiges of Thimbleweed's founding fathers and mothers to not go quietly into the night (you'll find out more about all that later).

In any event, by hook or crook the hotel's struggling to stay in business by any means possible and its a perfect venue for a small local sci-fi, comic and gaming convention in the 80's - additionally having started my professional career in the comics industry in the 70's and 80's it takes me right back to my roots.

- Gary

REGISTRATION FOR THIMBLECON 87- to be held at the scenic Edmund Hotel in downtown Thimbleweed Park will be open soon: Last year we had a record turn out of 62 paid attendees - and are hoping to surpass that - With booths from Stan's Toys & Comics, Comp-u-venture (formerly 3 guys computer games, formerly 4 guys computer games) and a sales rep from a major distributor. We'll also be holding our traditional costume contest. Look for registration forms at Stan's and at the Edmund West Willow Ballroom. Remember snacks and refreshments will be served by Chris Sprouse's mom while they last- so get there early.



tocsa120ls - Jan 07, 2015 at 13:27
That would be Stan's PREVIOUSLY OWNED Toys & Comics, wouldn't it?

Rick Sternberg - Jan 07, 2015 at 13:30
Part of me was hoping you were going to say you'd be using Deluxe Paint running in DOSBox.

Alan Shutko - Jan 07, 2015 at 13:44
No, the DOS version of Deluxe Paint was never up to the Amiga standards.  Got to go with UAE.

Rick Sternberg - Jan 07, 2015 at 17:24
Hey, as long as its D-Paint, I don't care what system its running on!  We just happened to use the DOS version back in the day.

Jammet - Jan 07, 2015 at 13:33
Will there be a public announcement on the local newspaper? The Timbleweed BBS should also put that news bit on the bulletin board and on FidoNet, so in the oddity that anyone from outside wants to show, they'll get instructions for the road.

Mister L - Jan 07, 2015 at 14:31
So, Ron did nothing today? Again? ;-)

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jan 07, 2015 at 17:14
Ron is a Real Programmer.
"The Real Programmer is capable of working 30, 40, even 50 hours at a stretch, under intense pressure.  In fact, he prefers it that way. If there is not enough schedule pressure on the deal Programmer, he tends to make things more challenging by working on some small but interesting part of the problem for the first nine weeks, then finishing the rest in the last week, in two or three 50-hour marathons."

Michiel Proce - Jan 07, 2015 at 14:41
Have you checked out http://www.aseprite.org/? I think it's very suited for the style/animation of Thimbleweed and might be a powerful tool to use alongside photoshop.

Gary Winnick - Jan 07, 2015 at 14:57
Yeah, Ron's goofing off as usual.....  :-)

Jammet - Jan 07, 2015 at 16:38
It's not a race ;). We'll rescue the world right on time. Or the park. Or our very lives.

k0SH - Jan 07, 2015 at 15:35
I want a kickstarter for "ThimbleCon '87".
NOW!

kovu94 - Jan 08, 2015 at 08:14
Where can I buy tickets? Seems to be a lot of fun ;-)

Christian - Jan 07, 2015 at 18:23
Is it legal to use Batman or a stromtrooper? (I wish we'd live in a world where one wouldn't even need to think about that!)
The Kickstarter had an animated gif with the hotel scrolling up and later it was changed to a static picture. I wonder if something forced you to change that

Ron Gilbert - Jan 07, 2015 at 18:25
That's not batman, or a storm trooper. I think you're mistaken.

Also, I removed the scrolling .gif because it was huge and slowed down the Kickstarter page load.  Trust me, if anyone told me to stop doing something, you'd hear about it. I don't go quietly. :-)

Peter Campbell - Jan 08, 2015 at 04:46
Ah, so that's what happened to the scrolling hotel floors .gif.   I had wondered about that since the .gif of the hotel showed some very peculiar images in some of the windows, especially that one window with the guy and his guitar :D

Jammet - Jan 08, 2015 at 20:44
The kissing pair looks like Zak and Annie. :)

Ron Gilbert - Jan 07, 2015 at 18:30

Brian Ruff - Jan 07, 2015 at 21:54
Gary, what kind of tools do you draw with in Photoshop? Is there a particular Wacam tablet you use? Or are you able to work with a mouse? (what kind of mouse?) It would be great to get more details.

Gary Winnick - Jan 07, 2015 at 22:03
I just use a Mac mouse- I got used to drawing with one a long time ago- and am just comfortable with how it feels.

Bobe - Jan 07, 2015 at 22:58
Excuse me if this is rude, but don't you know that dressing as a dragon is a fetish for many people?

I guess you can fetishize even the simplest thing, but people who go to conventions dressed as dragons are well-known perverts.  I understand you can't please everyone, and that sometimes the most innocent thing can be misconstrued.

That said, I'm sorry.  I won't play this if there are the equivalent of furries in the game.

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jan 08, 2015 at 09:37
Why a costume dragon is equal to pervert? It's a game, not the reality.

eboB - Jan 08, 2015 at 17:21
Yes, it is rude.

Seriously, are you that much of a prude that you won't play a game because it depicts something that some incredibly tiny number of people might fetishize?

I guess you won't play any games that have feet in them (i.e. any game with people, ever), because some people have fetishes for feet, too.

I would understand your point, and I don't think I'd play either, if it depicted a guy in a dragon costume engaged in lewd acts. Still, if it was presented in an appropriate context (I.E. as commentary, or satire) I would probably still play.

You know what? Don't play. I don't actually care, as long as I get the game exactly as Ron and Gary intended.

A 'Dirty' Furry - Feb 16, 2015 at 02:49
Wow. Whenever I hear something as hateful as that I don't know whether to be offended or just feel sorry for you. Everybody has some sort of 'fetish'- whatever consenting adults do is absolutely no business to anyone. I'm assuming that profound ignorance is YOUR fetish.

PMIK - Jan 08, 2015 at 03:36
I find it very amusing that the dragon is holding a sword!

I hope you fill the game with awesome funny details like that!

Tim Lammert - Jan 08, 2015 at 03:38
Hey Gary, hey Ron that´s hilarous a convention :D

I think this is the wrong place for it but I need to write it somewhere.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

We all will wait all time you need to finish this Game (and of course to start with it ;) )
And we waited so many years for something like this to happen.

In my opinion dead ends woud be no problem, because they would couse a longer playtime.
But PLEASE don´t make a short game. Make a real real long Storyline with as many as possible puzzles.
Of Course dead Ends are annoying, but I think they made a big part of the very long playtime.
Of course you can solve Maniac Mansion or ZacMcKracken in a few hours or shorter if you know everything and it will be the same with Thimbleweed Park. If you know everything it´s always fast to do everything, but PLEASE do some hard Puzzles. Not the ones that have no logic and can´t be solved without an walkthrough. But hard ones.

Working 50 hours at a strech? Maybe this can happen to you. Butt it would be better to get an Game with 50 hours playtime.
Of Course this is too much, but I hope you know what I´m trying to say.

To wait this long time and then finishing the game in less than 6 hours would be a big disapointmend in my eyes.
Please excuse my bad english. I had not enough sleep the last days an can hardly concentrate. (Thanks to my 4 moth old daughter, I love you.)

So, I think I said what I mean.

PS: ...Stan's Toys & Comics, Comp-u-venture (formerly 3 guys computer games, formerly 4 guys computer games)... this is so f+cking great, I´m just laughing my a++ of.
PPS: Ron, I´m with you, I can´t see any Batman, or Stormtrooper too...or a Mr. Spock or something else :D
I´m so happy I contributed to this. I´m just sad I didn´t had the balls to back for the Boxed Version. That would have been the heaven. I stimm have several original boxes at home. But I wouldn be able the enjoy it, cause my wife would carry my balls in her purse from now on -.-  ... women... will never understand :D

PrinzJohnny99 - Jan 08, 2015 at 04:45
Is the person on the left supposed to be Elaine Marley? Looks great!

PrinzJohnny99 - Jan 08, 2015 at 04:50
The text under that picture reminds me of the old Infocom Adventures. It would be awesome if you would give the player the opportunity to go deeper into the story with readable gimmicks, like the newspaper in Zak or the grail diary in Indy 3.

Joost - Jan 08, 2015 at 05:52
This stan individual has me wondering...
he wouldn't by any chance be younger version of someone we may have seen before - I remember someone a bit chatty...? and *quite* articulate with his body language...? with deplorable taste in clothes...?

Tim Lammert - Jan 08, 2015 at 06:08
Exactly :D

Mario Faross - Jan 08, 2015 at 10:41
in the scrolling hotel picture i see RON eating his turkey.

Simon - Jan 08, 2015 at 16:17
Interesting! The region where I see my roots has seen better days as well. As a result, you will from time to time see a hotel or restaurant that became too large for today's business going up in flames. Usually, there is someone hoping for insurance money in the background (and usually ending up in front of court).

Jazz - Jan 23, 2015 at 07:17
Use FLI graph for the C64!