Win! Win! Winners!

by Ron Gilbert
Jun 27, 2016

It's time for the phonebook winners.

From last week, then winners where:

P.Coltau
Nico
BertL
Mathias
Alberto

And the answer to the number of R entires is...

...drumroll...

133

We had several ties, so rather then rolling a dice and making some people cry, we're going to do the nice thing, because that is who we are.

McStorm
Francois Mercier
Michael Kohlhaas
Riccardo
Geoffrey Paulsen
Fernando
L.Larry
Hysteria

- Ron

P.S. I still have the podcast to finalize, hopefully that will go up tomorrow.



Medo - Jun 27, 2016 at 16:33
So much for, "Wisdom of the crowd"

DanVzare - Jul 09, 2016 at 14:00
What do you mean?
The average guess was 137. That's only four numbers off from the actual number.
The "Wisdom of the crowd" is like a cheat code!

Mathias Berglund - Jun 27, 2016 at 16:49
And here I thought the answer to life, universe and everything would apply to this simple matter as well.
Congrats winners :)

Carlo Valenti - Jun 27, 2016 at 17:41
Did you go to the ice bar just below the seaside? Nothing special, but that's curious.
Enjoy!

Carlo Valenti - Jun 27, 2016 at 17:45
Oh, and thank you for the new art in the last blog post!

Oregondanne - Jun 27, 2016 at 17:47
Yikes! Guessed 130, changed from 131 in the last minute... Congrats to all the winners!

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jun 27, 2016 at 18:01
Congratulations to the winners!
As we used to say: "che büs del cül", that means: "your luck is very big" ;-)

Ema - Jun 28, 2016 at 17:12
The funny thing is that, if the meaning is exactly what you said in english, the literal translation is "what an a@@@ole", which onviuosly has a completely different meaning in english.

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jun 29, 2016 at 05:26
Yes, the literal translation is correct :-) It's Brescian dialet, very similar to Milanés one.

Nick - Jun 27, 2016 at 18:07
Wow congratulations to all the winners... you all... must be... so... happy... ... ba$t4rd $

Mattias Cedervall - Jun 27, 2016 at 20:16
:-( I dislike my voice, but I still wish I had won.

Geoffrey Paulsen - Jun 27, 2016 at 21:35
Wow!  I won on a tie!  Thanks Ron and team!   I'm so very excited!

R.C.M. - Jun 27, 2016 at 21:57
Yay! I lose!
At least I was only off by 20, compared to 497 last time :U

Zombocast - Jun 27, 2016 at 22:20

Zombocast - Jun 27, 2016 at 22:58
I took everyone's guess, (Including duplicate submissions. Removing the excessive submissions 187293841 and 1285)
Out of the 345 guesses the total was 51201.
Average 51201/345 = 148.40869565217
Actual Number = 133

Good Job TWP's! we were off by 15.4

Medo - Jun 28, 2016 at 13:39
Also should remove all guesses less than 36 since, there were 36 names shown in the screenshot.

Big Red Button - Jun 28, 2016 at 01:49
Close, but no cigar. There were a lot of good guesses.

Congratulations to the winners!

DZ-Jay - Jun 28, 2016 at 05:36
Am I still in time for the riddle?  My answer is, there are 133 names in the "R" section.

How did I do?  Did I win? :lol:

     -dZ.

Michael Kohlhaas - Jun 28, 2016 at 07:21
Wow, I won! But I didn't receive an email...

McStorm - Jun 28, 2016 at 07:37
Yeah - me too!
Really great if you win something :o)

Myang - Jun 28, 2016 at 09:57
can't believe i lose by 3..... T_T  life's so unfair!!!! cryyyyy

Myang - Jun 28, 2016 at 10:01
Please pretty please with sugar on top!!! accept 136, we´re only 3.... :,-/

longuist - Jun 28, 2016 at 11:05
Yes, and please accept (in fact i demand) 139, despite being even more off. Its just me. BEEP the others. Why? Because my whining will be the most annoying BEEP you will have to suffer since 1987 !!11!eleven!exclamationmark!

Myang - Jun 28, 2016 at 11:23
you should have stayed with your first guess ;-)

longuist - Jun 28, 2016 at 12:38
And then? Would have been too far off nevertheless. C’est la vie.

Herbert - Jun 28, 2016 at 11:56
Hey, Ron, I didn’t win either of your two contests. However, as the 500$ pack includes three games, it will include three phone book entries too, right? Right? RIGHT???

Sundance - Jun 29, 2016 at 15:19
Hey, the question was how many people are in the phonebook, not how many names. I said 0 which is obviously the correct answer as there are no people in the phone book. But even if you say that you meant names it's not possible for it to have 133 names in the R section ... it's the phone book of thimbleweed park, thimbleweed park has roughly 81 ... ok 80 residents, how could there be 133 names in the R section? It's all a  big scam. What's next? Will you say the game will be released in 2017 or what? Pah. I am done. #!@?!&$!   ;)

Nor Treblig - Jun 29, 2016 at 16:51
This is an older phone book from the time before that one tragic incident happened... but I don't want to talk about it, it's too sad...

Mario F. - Jun 30, 2016 at 01:58
hahaha. nice one.

Nor Treblig - Jun 29, 2016 at 16:58
Btw. what is the new deadline for the phone book entries? I mean, you have to give those people who won some time!

Arto - Jun 29, 2016 at 17:12
Didn't win... I guess I have to count on having my name on end credits. For some reason.

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jun 30, 2016 at 03:48
EVERYONE PANIC!
It's the last day you have to update the information in your PhoneBook!
Starting from tomorrow, no further changes could be made (unless you bribe Ron, I suppose ... ;-) )

Brian Small - Jun 30, 2016 at 13:54
Thanks for the reminder, Zak...  The good news is that I still have several hours.

Nor Treblig - Jul 02, 2016 at 03:03
They decided for Hawaiian time, so still nearly three hours to go. We got this!

Christian - Jun 30, 2016 at 04:47
I took the last chance  :-)

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jun 30, 2016 at 07:01
Ron Gilbert has just finished the interview at Gamelab (Spain). Unfortunately I couldn't find the live streaming video. Hope to see it in the near future.
Some quotes (from tweets I gathered) by Ron at Gamelab:
- "Sometimes I play my games many years after I've finished them"
- "Technology does not change games. Audience change them"
- "You are not Guybrush and I don't expect you to be him"

Derrick Reisdorf - Jun 30, 2016 at 12:47
Awesome!  Thanks for the update!

KJL3000 - Jun 30, 2016 at 08:35
MORE CONTESTS!

Hysteria - Jun 30, 2016 at 14:59
Wow! Thanks! Just uploaded mine :)))))

Carlo Valenti - Jun 30, 2016 at 17:59
OK, I posted phonebook and voicemail... now.
I am pretty satisfied with my timing.

Zombocast - Jun 30, 2016 at 19:24
Ron now when i search for thimbleweedpark on my phone,  a  side scrollable tweet feed pops up. Google.com must be updating the mobile experience to provide more up to date trending results. Its a good thing Ron's a tweeting fannatic!

Zombocast - Jun 30, 2016 at 19:27
@Thimbleweedpark

DZ-Jay - Jul 01, 2016 at 07:45
Thanks for posting that, Zak.

One of my favourite insights is provided by this comment from Mr. Gilbert:

"He hablado con gente que jugó a Monkey Island en su día y tardó 40 horas en pasárselo. Tenían ocho años, hoy tienen 42, mujer, hijos… No puede durar cuarenta horas aunque tenga una complejidad similar. Los jugadores son más maduros, más inteligentes y saben cómo resolver los problemas."

"I've spoken with people who played Monkey Island in its day and took 40 hours to complete it.  They were 8 years-old then; today they are 42, with a wife and kids...  It can't take forty hours to complete any more even if it were of similar complexity.  Players are more mature, more intelligent, and know how to solve problems."

It shows Mr. Gilbert's commitment to his vision and dedication to the player's experience, and not just in making something (different or otherwise) for the its own sake.

That, and Mr. Ferrari's comments comparing the difference between a modern-retro game and an actual 1980s game, with that between a Renaissance Faire and the actual Renaissance; give me confidence that the team knows what they are doing and that the game will be well done.

I admire that vision and passion.

     -dZ.

Nor Treblig - Jul 01, 2016 at 16:37
Thanks for the translation. Also this is a very fitting quote from Mark!

Carlo Valenti - Jul 01, 2016 at 17:55
42-8=34
2016-1990=26

DZ-Jay - Jul 04, 2016 at 07:53
The point is the same, whether the math is correct or not.  Are you a programmer by chance? :P

  dZ.

Carlo Valenti - Jul 05, 2016 at 18:25
No, I am a Time Traveller.

Wluut - Jul 05, 2016 at 11:19
I am 42 with wife and kids. (Hm... how old was I when I played Monkey Island?)

And the reason why I cannot play games that need 40 hours to complete is simple:
It would take me months, just because I only have a few hours per week where I can relax and kill some time with computer games.
The rest of my life is crammed with ... life.
(People with kids know what I mean.)

Maybe I will take a sabbatical or so to play Thimbleweed Park. So exited. :-)

Ron Gilbert - Jul 05, 2016 at 11:30
Or... you can play it in "normal" mode, which will be much quicker, then at a later time go back and play it in "hard" mode and see a bunch of new puzzles.

Wluut - Jul 05, 2016 at 15:04
No,  no.  Only hard is the real thing.

Normal mode may become the gateway drug for the older one. But only after I will have completed the game first.

PS:
Just returned from my holidays in Spain. What a coincidence that we haven't met.

Arto - Jul 05, 2016 at 15:25
You go out to buy a pack of cigarettes. You will return when the game is finished, maybe a week later. If anyone askes, you were kidnapped by a UFO and possibly probed.

Wluut - Jul 06, 2016 at 04:56
Nah.
I tried the same excuse last time ;-)

Simon Simon - Jul 06, 2016 at 15:06
I see your point. Nevertheless, I would actually love to play a game that takes months to complete, and I will probably rigorously cut my weekly TWP gameplay time, just to recreate that experience. In the old days, it took me weeks to months to complete a game, and I enjoyed offline pondering over puzzles very much...

Brian Small - Jul 06, 2016 at 16:33
I agree with this sentiment.  I used to spend 10's and in some cases 100's of hours on an adventure game as a teenager, and well, probably also in my 20's (before kids).  Now the only way to have available time is to sacrifice sleep, which is much harder to do now in my mid 40's, with three teenagers of my own.  But I will definitely sacrifice sleep, and a lot of it, for this game.   It might even be worth a vacation day from work.

Ricardo Marichal - Jul 01, 2016 at 11:26
Thanks !!!!

Michael Kohlhaas - Jul 01, 2016 at 07:03
Thank you for the link and the phonebook contest!

R.C.M. - Jul 01, 2016 at 09:27
This is totally unrelated, but I find it amusing that one of the islands in the new Pokémon game is called "Melemele Island". Reminds me of Mêlée Island!

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jul 01, 2016 at 19:34
Ahah really? It can't be a coincidence!

Big Red Button - Jul 02, 2016 at 03:50
I had agreed with you at first, but I just read that "melemele" is a Hawaiian word.

Andrew Hanson - Jul 01, 2016 at 18:01
I'm not even mad that the podcast isn't up yet.

Nor Treblig - Jul 02, 2016 at 17:04
Hey what's up? Where are all the adventure game fans?

I remember so many Italians used to be here... and I thought Germans are big adventure fans too?
It's so quiet in here...

Carlo Valenti - Jul 02, 2016 at 17:27
Indeed. I don't know why ;)

Nor Treblig - Jul 02, 2016 at 17:40
:D

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jul 03, 2016 at 17:24
I started my 3 weeks holidays period. From yesterday until July 24th... I will write here less than before, but I will peek, occasionally.
See Ya!

Arto - Jul 03, 2016 at 18:33
I just started my 5 week vacation...

Carlo Valenti - Jul 04, 2016 at 18:20
Flying to DUS tomorrow evening!

Big Red Button - Jul 04, 2016 at 19:14
That's interesting, because I frequently pass through that city by train. Do you fly there for a vacation in that region, or only for a journey through?

Carlo Valenti - Jul 05, 2016 at 13:25
24h trip for job

Sushi - Jul 02, 2016 at 18:00
I was too busy wearing my Thimbleweed Park (tm) T-shirt, which arrived on Friday!

Nor Treblig - Jul 02, 2016 at 18:08
Yep, makes sense :-)
This was fast! I hope mine arrives soon too.

Sushi - Jul 02, 2016 at 18:01
and probably some Italians and Germans were watching the football game :D

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jul 03, 2016 at 17:26
Aaaaargh please don't open up that wound!!!!

Gffp - Jul 03, 2016 at 19:36
Comedy penalties. Zaza reminded me of the monkeys in Monkey Island 2 opening. Pellé looked like Guybrush on the bridge in front of Largo LaGrande. But the rest of the game was good.

Guga - Jul 05, 2016 at 06:59
Now, if only I had the time, I'd make a pixelated Zaza dancing with the monkeys gif.

Gffp - Jul 07, 2016 at 06:16
It would be hilarious! Anyway that was just a (very funny) way to respect rules 'cause you can't stop while approaching the ball before kicking... Eheheh

Zuckerberg - Jul 03, 2016 at 16:29
Oh no! For me, the website was down all day... DB server again, Ron?

Big Red Button - Jul 03, 2016 at 16:58
Ron tweeted that he was working on the website, in order to improve the SSL certificate handling - probably because there had been an issue, due to an expired SSL certificate, which kept the browser from loading this site.
https://twitter.com/grumpygamer/status/749412448923299840

Tom - Jul 04, 2016 at 11:49
Qualys SSL Labs gave it an A rating! Now using a short term 3 month cert. Either TWP is going to be released early or running low on kickstarter funds. :-)

Collin - Jul 05, 2016 at 01:44
Are you guys planning on rendering shades, glows, and shadows onto the character sprites?
EG: the character walks underneath a street light, so the top of her head gets all bright and warm and a new shadow shows up right under her feet.
Sounds like a lot of work, but it would be sweet!

Zuckerberg - Jul 06, 2016 at 07:21
"Podcast! Podcast! Podcast!"
(Nerds are going wacko here. They've got torches!)

Arto - Jul 06, 2016 at 17:41
I brought a pitchfork.

longuist - Jul 06, 2016 at 18:03
I have ... ... ...  soft cushions!

Carlo Valenti - Jul 08, 2016 at 17:51
We shall use... THE COMFY CHAIR!!

longuist - Jul 09, 2016 at 11:45
The .. comfy chair? Poking with soft cushions isn't enough? You are merciless.

Nor Treblig - Jul 06, 2016 at 18:31
I've only got these fine leather jackets, not sure what I should do with those.

Big Red Button - Jul 08, 2016 at 20:19
I have a chainsaw without gas.

Evan - Jul 06, 2016 at 20:23
>USE PITCHFORK ON BLOG
That doesn't seem to work.

Zombocast - Jul 06, 2016 at 23:00
Which Number best describes Ron Gilbert?
1. Ron Burgundy
http://bit.ly/1JX2rYD
2. Ron Swanson
http://bit.ly/29j3JBv
3. Ron White
http://bit.ly/29Q41BK

Zombocast - Jul 06, 2016 at 23:05
I'm leaning tword's:
#2 Ron Swanson
http://bit.ly/29Q053L

Arto - Jul 07, 2016 at 20:22
Me too. The first is Tim Schafer.

Danny Tunker - Jul 07, 2016 at 09:40
I can hold my breath until the new podcast! *breathes in*

Nikita (Indie game "Baki. The adventure game") - Jul 07, 2016 at 14:03
I miss listening your podcasts while driving!  Am i the only one? ))

Michael Hoffmann - Jul 07, 2016 at 17:33
No, certainly not. I also miss it! Most of the time I listen to the podcast in bed, sometimes in my car. Also, no Friday questions in July it seems. :-(

Zuckerberg - Jul 07, 2016 at 17:57
You're not alone. Actually it worries me a bit how much I enjoy listening to things like "...probably more of the same next week". ;)
For me it has become a bit of a habit, with a good cup of coffee, taking a break from my own work, to listen to what others are creating. Like a water-cooler chat, or 'canned co-workers'™ for freelancers. Also,  I've learned about "endurance" in creating. Now that I know how long the magic actually takes, and how repetitive it is at times, I've come to be much more patient with myself.
Let's hope for a follow-up game, /and/ a follow-up podcast. (Thanks Ron for editing hours of audio, on-top of game dev!)

Big Red Button - Jul 07, 2016 at 20:21
https://twitter.com/grumpygamer/status/750919004303142912
...whatever he means by this. Hopefully nothing serious.

R.C.M. - Jul 08, 2016 at 03:55
So....

What's up with airplane food anyway?
I mean... it's so... small and... not that good.

Brian Small - Jul 08, 2016 at 23:14
In case you missed it on Twitter : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3XpvDs0Kc

A very low budget but AMAZING video from Lucasfilm games in in the 80's.

Nor Treblig - Jul 09, 2016 at 03:51
Did anyone else noticed all those strange YouTube video recommendations? Apparently LFL also means Lingerie Football League...

Also you should be careful if you haven't beaten Maniac Mansion yet: they are spoiling an important puzzle chain, and she didn't even have to look it up on the Puzzle Dependency Chart for Maniac Mansion (PDCMM™)!

Mario F. - Jul 09, 2016 at 05:13
haha, crazy. i think i spotted alle devs there. ron, gary, and at least david singing., look at gary's fly.

Big Red Button - Jul 09, 2016 at 12:58
Wow, this video is full of corporate secrets! I cannot believe it.
Finally, I know how LFL made sure that their games have spielvergnügen: You have to make a lot of sacrifices - material sacrifices.
Well, I think, only a Super Fluffy Bunny which is drawn upside down but still looks super fluffy after you've flipped it is a professionally drawn Super Fluffy Bunny. The artists at LFL therefore did a virtuoso job, I would say.

PS: It's interesting how teleshopping programs have evolved over the decades - except the high level of the crossed out recommended retail prices, of course!

Ron Gilbert - Jul 09, 2016 at 13:06
I'm pretty sure this video was made to be shown at the Lucasfilm (not just games) company meeting.

Big Red Button - Jul 09, 2016 at 15:27
Now I see. The video had tricked me. :) I had assumed that the Home ESN commercials were genuine (unlike the other contents), because I hadn't recognized the contained winks. They are actually not far from looking like typical infomercials from the 80s.

Brian Small - Jul 09, 2016 at 15:38
I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the corporate presentation, and seen the reactions.