Exploring Delores IIIII

by Gary Winnick
Jul 08, 2015

Although I hate following ‘the cutest dog in the world picture', it's time for the next art related post.

Ok, so based on the last round of feedback to the previous Delores design post, we thought we'd go through one last round of pixel art before Ron and I make our decision (yes, the decision of the judges will be final).

It's been very interesting to see everyone's reaction to what's approaching her final character art for the game. Now that somewhat recognizable pixel versions are in play there's been a lot of requests to try ‘this head' with ‘that body', etc. as sort of a ‘colorforms' style exercise. Just a quick aside, #2 (the middle one) seemed to get the most positive overall response.

Certainly, one of the aspects of working digitally I really like is an almost endless ability to tweak and noodle pixel art the approach allows. Tear this head off, replace it with that one, change the skin color, put those shoes on that one over there. It's very fluid in nature which allows for an amazingly dynamic process.

However, one of the dangers of this is that you really can almost noodle something forever. I've worked on a lot of projects, with a lot of other folks, Project Leaders, Art Directors, Writers, etc. One of the things I really strive for is to present a coherent range of choices. If you're responsible for getting a job done, you really need to be able to focus in and decide. In the case of Thimbleweed Park, I'm doubly fortunate to be part of the design team, so my opinion carries a fair amount of weight and I happen to be working with extremely talented people whose opinions I respect and have a no-nonsense way of getting things done. As Ron tends to say from time to time "I don't know art, but I know what I like". (Actually he really does know art- but don't tell him I said that :-)).

This philosophy has served us in good stead during our time at Lucasfilm from Maniac Mansion to Monkey Island, and you have to know when it's time to fish or cut bait and in the case of Delores it's definitely time to fish and we certainly appreciate all the feedback we've gotten throughout the process.

So here's to the last round of noodling Delores. From here we'll decide her actual design, then complete this series with a final blog post showcasing that in various poses and orientations.

Additionally, due to popular demand we will be planning on Delores having some ‘themed' costume changes for ThimbleCon, after all she is kind of a geek....

- Gary

Mikie - Jul 08, 2015 at 20:35

Andy - Jul 08, 2015 at 20:37
I before E, except after C... no wait that's not right...

I or A would be my #1 & #2  then E, G, B, D, F, H, and C in that order.  ;)

Chris T. - Jul 08, 2015 at 20:39
Score one for E!

hippy dave - Jul 08, 2015 at 20:45
Man this is hard. Feckit, I'm doubling down on A.

halls - Jul 08, 2015 at 20:45
I defintely would go for E, and then B. For some reason that I can't explain I can only imagine nerd women with dark hair...

Draxton - Jul 08, 2015 at 20:51
B or E (without the ponytail though, looks like the ponytail starts from the side )
H ... the arms blend too much with the hair
A,G  and I ... the "blonde" looks bad without some hair around the face looks like ... she has only hair on the top (maybe with a few more "blonde" pixels)
Redhead ones... she looks too much like Kenny from Southpark

So B or E to me

vegetaman - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:03
My only suggestion, is that for the ponytail, make it look more like a "high/side ponytail" like the girls on Full House used to have. And I think it'd be perfect!

vegetaman - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:03
Oh, but totally G, by the way.

Hamdi - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:12
Best combination for Dolores is G, cute blond hair, blue hoody and pink shoelace  :)

Nathan - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:13

Ralph Upton - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:17
Maybe I have a dirty mind, but "Exploring Delores"... C'mon, really? :D

Exploring Delores V, Revenge of the Pixels

buaku - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:23

skarsson - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:25
D is a winner!

Mike - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:28
Ponytail forever!  And I is probably the best outfit.

The ponytail is the most distinctive look (and forces you to work non-symmetrically!), but if you think it would disappear in her costumes and make her look too different from outfit-to-outfit, then I can understand not choosing it.  You and Ron know best!

prbalbontin - Jul 08, 2015 at 21:37
"I" is perfect in my humble opinion. She looks like an approachable geek girl, instead of a sarcastic nerd.

Seth Berrier - Jul 08, 2015 at 22:18
At a glance G jumpped at me and I'm still feeling it a few minutes later.

Prof. B.

Daniel - Jul 08, 2015 at 22:19
the only one i like is A

Patrik Spacek - Jul 08, 2015 at 22:19
I did another modification....I swapped clothes from others and this seems the best. The Orange hair and contrast colors are not appealing to me. Here you go:

Zombocast - Jul 09, 2015 at 00:43
I still think it would be neat if some of the fan contributions were considered.
mr. T: http://i.imgur.com/I7Kt6RG.gif
JGable1: http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/MegandJer/Delores.png
Zombocast http://i.imgur.com/aP1UOPk.png

But if i have to pick one, E from this modified combination:
Patrik Spacek: http://blog.thimbleweedpark.com/exploring_delores5/559dda498195c3c274a66fc5

Ron Gilbert - Jul 09, 2015 at 00:58
We did consider those and they contributed to what we eventually came up with.

Patrik Spacek - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:33
Yes, E is slightly better, because the sweater makes people "old looking" and senescent. She can use it for undercover :o) thought. E is more light and she looks intellectual.

Patrik Spacek - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:34
My version of E... meant :)

Leandro - Jul 08, 2015 at 22:23
I really , really like "E" . I think it sums up , Delores nerdy and bold attitude or hers.

Mike - Jul 08, 2015 at 22:36

Dan - Jul 08, 2015 at 22:46
The white shoes seem to look nerdier. As they kinda clash with the outfits presented.

The short hair also looks frumpier.

The outfits for B or D are practical not pretty.

So I prefer D or B for this character.

Mike K - Jul 08, 2015 at 23:33
Geez this is hard.  I keep on going back to the text write up about Delores and I keep on landing on choice "E".  Hip, practical, geeky and socially diverse.  KInda reminds me of Chrissie Hynde.

DesertPenguin - Jul 08, 2015 at 23:43
E seems most "adventurous", you know what I mean.  Isn't that what we are looking for? ;)

Chris - Jul 09, 2015 at 00:02
B or E

Mattias Cedervall - Jul 09, 2015 at 00:38
I vote for "I".

Tempomat - Jul 09, 2015 at 01:05
I like D the most. White shoes fit well and even if the ponytail is nice, it doesn't seem nerdy enough...

Nuno - Jul 09, 2015 at 02:01
"I" is the winner :)

Brian R. - Jul 09, 2015 at 02:29
I like "E"

cornholio1980 - Jul 09, 2015 at 03:01
The "blond ponytail" is still my favorite head, and for some reason, I see Delores in a skirt. So -> A.

Remy - Jul 09, 2015 at 03:32
E! She's hot XD

Ike - Jul 09, 2015 at 03:45

Roman - Jul 09, 2015 at 03:48
Put the B head on the A body and you're done ;-)

thiezn - Jul 09, 2015 at 03:54
B for the game, I to take on a date. You happen to have her number?

Tomimt - Jul 09, 2015 at 04:07
My order of prefrences


Dominik - Jul 09, 2015 at 04:33
For me it would be "I" - the best mix of nerdy and cool. Like it!

Also: How about creating a dog - maybe call it Pep for no apparent reason - that follows her around? Would be also quite easy to program: It just has a few idle animations and otherwise follows here around (thanks to wayfinding this shouldn't be a problem). Only thing to consider: Have a special script command that tells the dog to go to her position RIGHT NOW, so that when she uses an elevator the puppy isn't left behind. She could even whistle for the dog when that command is executed, so it looks more natural. Only other problem would be ladders - that could make for an awkward pickup-and-carry animation or a super dog ;-)

mr. T - Jul 09, 2015 at 04:47
E for sure.

I really like the ponytail vibe and the jacket with a t-shirt combo. Plus the sneakers.

brug0r - Jul 09, 2015 at 05:04
B is my favorite

Vilinthril - Jul 09, 2015 at 05:08
E or I. Ponytail is a must. ;)

Davide - Jul 09, 2015 at 05:41

Sebastien Frippiat - Jul 09, 2015 at 05:56
First choice : A
Then : C & G

longuist - Jul 09, 2015 at 06:15

Peter - Jul 09, 2015 at 06:29
I would prefer Version "I". She is the kind of girl that could help me, fixing Computer Problems... I love her.... Marry me! Uaahhh... :D

Opinionhaver 2000 - Jul 09, 2015 at 06:35
E, but the ponytail looks like it's coming out the side of her head like half a pigtail. Could you move the root down and closer to the neck?

Jr - Jul 09, 2015 at 06:47

Dark colors are better for hour long playing. The others seem eye irritating.

Dan - Jul 09, 2015 at 07:16
"B", "D" and "I" are my favorites.

Dan - Jul 09, 2015 at 07:21
I admit that "G" looks also good.

Zack - Jul 09, 2015 at 08:18
"D" or "E". Can´t decide.

RCM - Jul 09, 2015 at 08:32
I like G. It seems right for her to have blonde hair (and also because it adds variety, since the other playable characters have dark hair (well, maybe not Ransome))

Arto - Jul 09, 2015 at 08:41
As I can't decide which would be best, I'll use exclusion: outfit of C, G and H don't really work. Too common. Hairstyle of C, D, F and H don't work either. Again, too common. A speaks to me, and seems 80s nerdy to me. So A, B, E, I. But B looks a bit like a librarian, so I might exclude that too. A, E, I. I'd like to think she is more happy-go-lucky than serious, so I'd maybe drop E too. So, A or I, depending whether she is a generally nerdy person, or a fan-of-something-nerd. That being said, A might be just a conscientious student, so maybe my answer would be I.

Arto - Jul 09, 2015 at 08:48
The title of this blog post actually confirms this, five times: Exploring Delores IIIII.

DanVzare - Jul 09, 2015 at 08:47
My absolute favorite is G.
My second favorite is E.

That being said, most of them are quite nice, and I look forward to which ever you end up choosing at the end.

Zak Phoenix McKracken - Jul 09, 2015 at 10:29
My choice: I (last one, bottom-right)

Pedro - Jul 09, 2015 at 10:49
B or D here. The blond ponytail ones are a little too straight-ahead nerdy, like they're right out of Central Casting; B and D have some personality edge to them. I like the idea mentioned upthread of E without the ponytail (so, basically B with a shorter crop of hair), but the other two feel slightly more 80s to me, so I'll go with those.

PrinzJohnny99 - Jul 09, 2015 at 10:51
But maybe you can show the same haircut in red or blonde?

Jeff - Jul 09, 2015 at 10:54

Geoff Paulsen - Jul 09, 2015 at 12:12
I vote for I.

Badde - Jul 09, 2015 at 12:35

Pietz - Jul 09, 2015 at 12:59
I think the most important thing is the color of the clothes. The characters should be easily to differentiate by color and shape elements. So no blue top if the others have blue tops e.g. I could only choose the best if I can see the other final character, but I like the ponytail to the side!

Paulup - Jul 09, 2015 at 14:08
"E" or "I"

JamesB - Jul 09, 2015 at 15:02
I had quite a different opinion when I was looking at this page on my phone than on my computer.  I preferred the light colored hair on the smaller screen (easier to see), but I like the darker hair on the computer.  And sadly there is no ginger pony-tail version. :(

My preferences, E then I (dark and light haired hoodie+white shoes).

Arto - Jul 09, 2015 at 17:42
Oh yeah, I with ginger hair would be great!

Arto - Jul 09, 2015 at 17:43
Maybe even some freckles. Or would that be too much?

Malc - Jul 09, 2015 at 15:04
I *REALLY* like the blonde pony tail, don't care which body it's on.

(And now i sound like my own dating profile)

Flo - Jul 09, 2015 at 15:21
I would prefer "I" :-)

hihp - Jul 09, 2015 at 16:17
First of all: E! E! E! That is definitely my first choice :-) Definitely pony tail, definitely dark hair. Clothes could be some of the others, but dark ponytail is totally her style.

Other than that: Just wanted to mention that, again, you made someone (me!) feel very happy and appreciated. When in the last Delores design post you didn't react to the opinions and suggestions expressed there, I was a bit disappointed. But now I see that you definitely read and cherished those suggestions there, because I see them among the choices presented here.
And it not only is a very nice experience to get the kind of insight into the game development process we do, but also get the feeling like we are actually part of it. Really, thanks a lot. I already love the game and we are still a year away from release.

Well... plus we sort of are your employers right now, because we paid the money you work on ;-)

Peter - Jul 09, 2015 at 16:19
A question to Mark Ferrari: Do you know the album covers from Roger Dean for Yes? It looks similar to you're art:


Peter - Jul 09, 2015 at 19:11
Yes, I know this was off Topic... I choosed "I" for a Date, but it's just my taste.... :D

Kzon - Jul 09, 2015 at 16:20
I vote for E. Well, and maybe I.

But other than that and preferably, E it is

EdoBvD - Jul 09, 2015 at 16:32
I want to play with E
She looks fresh, reactive and matches the time period

Avis - Jul 09, 2015 at 16:43
My strong favorite is B, with I my second choice.

Sushi - Jul 09, 2015 at 17:43
Since she recieves so little votes: H! Her bright colored clothes make her standout.
Anyway, now it's up to you guys to "choose.... Choose wisely!"

Jeepika - Jul 09, 2015 at 18:27

Triicle9 - Jul 09, 2015 at 18:30
Oh, pleaaaaase EEEEE ! She's so cute and tiny and nerdy ! I _SO_ vote for E !

Heinz - Jul 09, 2015 at 19:26
I vote for "G"

Jammet - Jul 09, 2015 at 19:41
My vote is for the last one. (i)

Stefano E. - Jul 09, 2015 at 21:03
G or I
Thanks for going the extra mile on this and showing you are listening to backers. I completely agree with you that now is the time to make a choice and keep it final. I think it would be cool if you don't reveal the choice until the game is out (not to mention avoiding a bunch of "please change your mind" comments :-) )

Meteor police - Jul 09, 2015 at 21:32
'E'. The ponytail keeps her geeky, while she can reserve her wild side by untying it on Saturday nights.

PurpleTentacle - Jul 09, 2015 at 21:49
E. It's definitely E.

Sewa-o-matic - Jul 09, 2015 at 22:30
my vote goes to "I"

Hodge - Jul 09, 2015 at 22:54
I'd go with B but wearing C's outfit.


The ponytailed ones all look a bit odd, like their hair is levitating or something.

JanW - Jul 10, 2015 at 01:28
Either B or E.

doglobster - Jul 10, 2015 at 03:19
For me, D or E are best overall. Not so keen on the pony tail, it just screams schoolgirl to me, not nerd

I'm feeling a Heart vibe and diggin the do on B. Best hair of the lot!

Thanks for the little parcels of fun in between the monotony of working life!

Waddehaddedudeda - Jul 10, 2015 at 04:57
I think one of the thing you planned on Delores originally was to be middle-aged, bit you shifted that to fairly younger. Nevertheless, "A" looks too young for me.

The red-haired ones... not so much the Delores you described. I picture her a "second look beauty", i.e. you only really notice her much at second glance. The reddish hair sticks out too much for that, so no go.

Delores no. "B" is just... odd. I think the hairdo makes her look too old. That head would be middle-aged Delores.

I do like the outfit of "G", but I do think for Delores it's rather the hoodie. And the blonde ponytail is, hmm... still looks a bit too young, just like "A".

All of that boils therefore down to: "E". I vote for E. Please pick E!

Okona - Jul 10, 2015 at 06:14
I'd say E then A. I like the skirt. And it has to be a ponytail.

Jens - Jul 10, 2015 at 06:53
I, because the red ponytail looks great and the clothes look more geeky to me than the librarian sweater or the vest.

Toria - Jul 10, 2015 at 06:54
I like  D, E & I, in that order.
Lotsa denim, white sneakers, big hair. (Though I'd love a foot-high fringe (bangs?) too.)
Thinking of what I thought was so cool as a young teenage girl in the 80's is so embarrassing  ;)
But if you are keeping old Delores to be her big sister then E keeps the family resemblance.
Oh and if the blue suit is too similar to your female detective, you could try going lighter for a pale blue acid wash for Delores?
(Another cringe at the memory)

dada - Jul 10, 2015 at 06:57
I like E or I they have some nice feminine features as well as attitude.

reini - Jul 10, 2015 at 09:06

Wizard - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:15
Definitely "B" :)

roccapl - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:30
Gary,  you need to brush up on roman numerals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals

Christopher Griffin - Jul 10, 2015 at 15:11
I'm sure the number "IIIII" was an absurd joke, I laughed when I saw it anyway.

Gary Winnick - Jul 10, 2015 at 16:53
You are correct...

dada - Jul 10, 2015 at 18:06
HAHA! it didn't really hit me up until now that for the last two posts you were just adding sticks. Its sad that i'm such a moron  but anyway it made me laugh now XD

Dan - Jul 10, 2015 at 18:19
I thought as much. ;-) Unless I'm mistaken you don't even break the rules of roman numerals by it. It's simply free-spirited.

Roberto Cano - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:51
Yep, so, ok, after choosing another one from the last post, making suggestions about fiddling here and there, and complaining about this and that......I think I really like:


That's it, one of the original ones. I can really see myself playing with that one all over Thimbleweed! I can also see my mouse all greasy and soaked from the Cola and pork I'll be eating while playing the game. Oh yes, some good old fashioned greasy savory Thimbleweed Pork...............yummy!

scott32 - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:57
For what I understand of her personality and role in the game, definitely A!
It's the only one that looks relatively more feminine and introverted. All the other ones are too cool! You already have a "cool" tomboy character.

A A A A A A A A A A all the way!


Dan - Jul 10, 2015 at 12:55
For all I know computers weren't a very typical field of interest for girls back in the 80s. I don't think she has spent much time with other girls. So why does she need to wear a skirt? I suppose she is much more familiar with jeans and t-shirts, since she has spent much of her spare time at the Thimbleweed Park Arcade (character description).

Zuckerberg - Jul 10, 2015 at 14:10
Delores would probably remark that this blog post's title must be V instead of IIIII, as in I, II, II, IV, V... ;)

Christopher Griffin - Jul 10, 2015 at 15:17
B or E (in that order).

salty ride - Jul 10, 2015 at 23:59
not so girlie, geek with an attitude. the hair is good, the clothes are good. and the shoe color is good

Brett - Jul 11, 2015 at 03:11
Definitely F.

Mcloud the Cowboy - Jul 11, 2015 at 03:38
A or B.... can't decide.
A seems more graceful. And B seems to be a more average, fun and relateable person.

Jérôme L. - Jul 11, 2015 at 03:48
I prefer B, second choice: E, I like ponytails in fact, though it looks kind of weird in this picture so that I prefer B

Mahaku - Jul 11, 2015 at 04:21
G all the way

Asuma - Jul 11, 2015 at 05:46
In my humble opinion, B is by far the most coherent design: the colors are well balanced (mostly cold, with just a touch of warmth in the shoes) and the short, fairly unattractive haircut matches the masculine clothes and glasses... it just makes sense.

peterszky - Jul 11, 2015 at 08:33
My vote goes for I.

TVB - Jul 11, 2015 at 09:56
To B, or not to B; that is the question.

Adrian - Jul 11, 2015 at 11:27
F - I think I'm the 2nd to vote for it.
Following that I then E but they're pretty much interchangeable in my preferences.
I like the outfit, and prefer the blue shoes.

Franzy - Jul 11, 2015 at 17:08
A or G :)

thom-22 - Jul 11, 2015 at 21:44

Brian Bagnall - Jul 12, 2015 at 17:15
There can be only one. A.

Gloria Viktoria - Jul 12, 2015 at 17:42
I do like G

Soong - Jul 13, 2015 at 02:59
I like D, F, and I, in no particular order.  I'm not a big fan of the other's tops.

DorHajaj - Jul 14, 2015 at 03:22

Nacho Fernández - Jul 14, 2015 at 05:59
I and A. (Really cool anyone it gets picked)

Mathieu "Zorch" Martin - Jul 14, 2015 at 10:54
B speaks to me!

Will - Jul 14, 2015 at 14:12
Personally I'm a fan of D.

Def Metal - Jul 14, 2015 at 20:39
A - has the most "character" to it. like the coloring of H. the rest are just too bland and anonymous.

Dave Lawrence - Jul 15, 2015 at 21:02
I like A. Geeky, girly, and smart looking! Perfect for the character.

Greg - Jul 18, 2015 at 09:22
"E" is my fav!